Another episode in the *Galileo* clown show

[Eric S. Raymond]

Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.

[Another Sillyname]

But at least they got the title right......

Post by Eric S. Raymond
Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.
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great nations. -- David Friedman

[Tomalak Geret'kal]

Post by Eric S. Raymond
Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.

Hi Eric

I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket",
rather than simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make
some kind of point?

Tom

[Askar Ibragimov]

No worries. Russian quality is a bit of a pattern.

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Post by Tomalak Geret'kal

Post by Eric S. Raymond
Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.

Hi Eric
I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket", rather than simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make some kind of point?
Tom

[Another Sillyname]

Not sure if this is a Gruniad (sic) misquote or a mispoken phrase by the
CEO....either way on point and quite funny.

"Our aim is of course to fully understand this anomaly," said Stephane
Israel, Arianespace chairman and chief executive. "While it is too early to
determine the exact causes, we would like to offer our sincere *excuses* to
ESA and the European commission for this orbital injection that did not
meet expectations."


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/24/galileo-gps-satellites-launched-into-wrong-orbit

Post by Askar Ibragimov
No worries. Russian quality is a bit of a pattern.
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Post by Tomalak Geret'kal

Post by Eric S. Raymond
Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.

Hi Eric
I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket", rather than

simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make some kind of point?

Post by Tomalak Geret'kal
Tom

[Tomalak Geret'kal]

Post by Another Sillyname
Not sure if this is a Gruniad (sic) misquote or a mispoken
phrase by the CEO....either way on point and quite funny.
"Our aim is of course to fully understand this anomaly,"
said Stephane Israel, Arianespace chairman and chief
executive. "While it is too early to determine the exact
causes, we would like to offer our sincere /*excuses*/ to
ESA and the European commission for this orbital injection
that did not meet expectations."
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/24/galileo-gps-satellites-launched-into-wrong-orbit

Dear Another,

It's quite obviously an unfortunate and perhaps ironic
mistranslation on Israe"l's part, given that the French noun
for "apology" is "excuse".

Tom

[Eric S. Raymond]

Post by Tomalak Geret'kal
I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket", rather
than simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make some kind of
point?

Ever ridden in a Lada?

[Tomalak Geret'kal]

Post by Eric S. Raymond

Post by Tomalak Geret'kal
I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket", rather
than simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make some kind of
point?

Ever ridden in a Lada?

I'm out. I have no intention of stooping to the level of
this arrogant, puerile stereotyping.

Good luck with your project.

Tom

[Askar Ibragimov]

As a Russian citizen I find this dicussion quite entertaining, though not
really ontopic.

I am really pleased by level of politcial correctness shown by Tomalak,
this is rare thing to find.

However, the space sector of Russian inductry is not quite well funded (I
saw an advert for engineers in some Space Constructing Bureau where salary
was stated for about $700, that is very minor for Moscow and certainly
below expectation of mission-critical workers) and there were serial faults
of space rockets that made the impression.

PS current Lada might be better than in 90ties.

Post by Eric S. Raymond

Post by Tomalak Geret'kal
I'm curious as to why you wrote "a dodgy Russian rocket", rather
than simply "a dodgy rocket". Are you trying to make some kind of
point?

Ever ridden in a Lada?

I'm out. I have no intention of stooping to the level of this arrogant,
puerile stereotyping.
Good luck with your project.
Tom

[Sanjeev Gupta]

Post by Eric S. Raymond
Wrong title on previous post. Way late, over budget, and misdeployed
by a dodgy Russian rocket.

No, it was NOT misdeployed. From the link you cite:

Officials confirmed a launch anomaly in a statement late Friday.
"Complementary observations gathered after separation of the Galileo FOC
M1 satellites on Soyuz Flight VS09 have highlighted a discrepancy between
targeted and reached orbit," Arianespace, the French launch services
company, said in a statement.

See? It is a "launch anomaly", a "discrepancy". Not a failure :-)